LIC REPORT ON CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON SYRIA

December 14, 2011

By Maya Gebeily

Administrative and Research Assistant

 

U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia

 

I- Title:

Confronting Damascus: US Policy toward the Evolving Situation in Syria 

 

II- Transcripts:

Statements :

Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Steve Chabot

Ranking Member Rep. Gary Ackerman

 

Testimonies:

Mr. Frederic C. Hof, Special Coordinator for Regional Affairs, Office of the U.S. Special Envoy for Middle East Peace, U.S. Department of State

 

Webcast:

http://bcove.me/q21qeeee 

 

III- Attendance: Representatives:

  • Steve Chabot (R-OH), Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia

  • Gary Ackerman (D-NY), Ranking Member of the House Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia

  • Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), Chairman of the Oversight and Investigation Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee

  • Robert Turner (R-NY), Member of the House Committees on Foreign Affairs

  • Brian Higgins (D-NY), Member of the House Committees on Foreign Affairs

  • Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE), Member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs

  • Christopher Murphy (D-CT), Member of the House Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia

  • Tom Marino (R-PA), Member of the House Committees on Foreign Affairs

  • Gus Bilirakis (R-FL), Member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs

  • Ben Chandler (D-KY), Member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs

 

 

 Summaries

Testimony:

Frederic C. Hof
Special Coordinator for Regional Affairs at the Office of the U.S. Special Envoy for Middle East Peace, State Department

 

Notable Quotes:

  • “ In a desperate attempt to preserve itself, this regime is willing to sacrifice the safety of the Syrian people, the unity of the Syrian nation, the institutions of the Syrian state and the stability of the region.”

  • “The regime's money is running out, but if given the choice the regime may well elect to hang on, reduced to presiding over a Levantine North Korea.”

  • “…the United States, the Syrian opposition and the international community are making the protection of civilians their top priority.”

  • “The regime claims to have accepted an Arab League plan to deploy monitors but continues to bicker with the Arab League to buy time, clinging to the misguided notion that it can kill, beat, and torture its way out of this crisis.”

  • “We ask those governments that are insulating this regime from the will of Syria's citizenry: do not make innocent civilians pay the price for your political calculations.”

  • “Peaceful protest will not stop until Assad and his inner circle are gone. Nor will international pressure relent until the violence has ceased and Syrians are afforded the dignity and good governance they deserve…The United States continues to urge against violent resistance not because we are naïve, but because we firmly believe the effort to extract this regime from the Syrian state will succeed more quickly and bloodlessly if the revolution remains entirely peaceful.”

  • “We will not support the replacement of one form of tyranny with another. We share the opposition's vision of a Syria governed by the consent of the governed in accordance with a Syrian formula for democracy. We want citizenship to rule over distinctions of ethnicity, sect and gender. We want a Syria where everyone, from the president to the pupil in school, is protected by and subject to the rule of law. We want a Syria where majority rule is tempered by minority rights. We want a Syria in which the state, to borrow from the words of Turkey's prime minister, is secular and equidistant from all faiths.”

  • “Those currently trying to serve the Syrian state with dignity and honor should persuade the regime to leave while it can. Upstanding officers, soldiers and officials should be joined by business and religious leaders in demanding that the regime release its grip on Syria. Those who act to protect the Syrian people and state will earn the gratitude of millions of Syrians and will be on the right side of history. By contrast, those who aid or abet the regime's predations should know that they will face certain justice. They must choose between serving Syria and serving a murderous and ultimately doomed criminal enterprise.”

  • “This regime is already part of the past. Syrians and their international partners are already hard at work building Syria's brighter future.”

     

Mr. Hof began his testimony emphatically, stating that the Assad regime, through its appalling use of violence, “wrote and signed its own political obituary.” He briefly summarized the recent events in Syria over the last six weeks to highlight the international community’s involvement in the crisis: the Arab League’s decisions on suspending Syria’s membership and imposing comprehensive sanctions on the regime; actions by Turkey, the United States, and Europe in calling for Assad to step down and implementing severe financial measures; and the U.N. Human Rights Council Resolution condemning the Syrian government’s abuse of its civilians.

Mr. Hof emphasized that the United States and Europe are working with “international partners to identify and freeze regime assets, while taking diplomatic action to ensure that third parties do not help the regime” in evading these sanctions. He stated that these efforts have been successful, leaving the regime in an increasingly difficult financial position. Bashar al-Assad, however, continues to contradict reality by insisting that he enjoys “overwhelming popular support,” rejecting claims of regime brutality, and denying that he gave his armed forces orders to shoot on unarmed civilians.

As the death toll rises to over 5,000 and increasingly brutal human rights violations are revealed, the U.S., the Syrian opposition, and the international community have made the protection of civilians their top priority. Mr. Hof expressed his support of the Arab League’s tough action against the Assad regime and its plan to deploy human rights monitors into Syria despite the Syrian regime’s best efforts at buying time and “tortur[ing] its way out of this crisis.” Even without the implementation of the Arab League plan, Mr. Hof affirmed that the U.S., the international community, and the Arab League would work together to “ensure Syrian civilians are not abandoned to a regime that is willing to spill their blood in a futile effort to save itself.”

Mr. Hof then addressed the actions of some states, namely, Russia, China, and India, against U.N. efforts to protect Syrian civilians. He asked such countries to consider several simple questions, including whether the regime permits its civilians to gather peacefully and to organize politically or allows the Arab League’s human rights monitors or the Commission of Inquiry to examine the current situation in Syria. He warned these countries to refrain from making “innocent civilians pay the price for [the countries’] political calculations.”

Mr. Hof commended the Syrian protestors on their bravery and determination, stating that their peaceful protests and the pressure imposed by international community will not cease until the regime’s violence has stopped and Syrian citizens achieve the “dignity and good governance they deserve.” He did, however, stress the importance of speedy action on Syria, especially as the regime’s repression worsens, and of maintaining non-violent resistance in Syrian protests in order to ensure a quicker and less bloody end to the Assad regime.

The Syrian opposition is working hard to preserve the peaceful nature of the uprising. Mr. Hof cited his recent trip with the Secretary of State to Geneva, in order to meet with the Syrian National Council (SNC), which has proven to be a leading and legitimate representative of the Syrian people. He mentioned several steps that the Syrian opposition is taking in order to protect civilians and preserve the Syrian state: the inclusion of more Christians, Alawis, and Kurds into the leadership structure of the SNC; planning for the establishment of a legitimate, democratic, and pluralistic government through a peaceful transition; and maintaining that although Syrian institutions need reforms, they should be salvaged in order to preserve the Syrian state.   

Mr. Hof expressed his hope for a Syria governed by its people, with a population “protected by and subject to the rule of law,” where “citizenship rules over distinctions of ethnicity, sect, and gender,” all “in accordance with a Syrian formula for democracy.” Although these goals will take time to achieve, a speedy exit for Assad and his regime would minimize further costs for the Syrian people. Mr. Hof urged upstanding Syrian officials, soldiers, businessmen, and religious leaders to act on the right side of history and demand for the regime to leave, while warning those that continue to serve the regime and its hostile tactics that they will face justice. He closed with a strong statement that the Syrian regime “is already part of the past,” while “Syrians and their international partners are already hard at work building Syria’s brighter future.”

 

 

Remarks:

Representative Steve Chabot (R-OH)

Chairman of the House Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia

 

Notable Quotes:

  •  “The English language does not have words strong enough to adequately condemn the horrifying abuses that have been committed by the Assad regime and its allies against the Syrian people. Beyond questions of legitimacy, these despicable acts are proof that the Assad regime is morally depraved and it is my belief that we—and all other responsible nations—have a moral imperative to ensure that Assad and his ilk are removed from power as soon as possible.”

  • “It is not our prerogative to tell the Syrian opposition to eschew armed resistance against the Assad regime when it is that very regime that continues to torture, rape, and murder the very citizens who comprise the opposition’s ranks. It must be pointed out to those who maintain that only non-violent opposition is legitimate that it was the Assad regime and not the opposition which initiated the violence.”

  • “The Syrian people—like all people—have the right to defend themselves against the brutality of an illegitimate and repressive regime.”

  • “When this uprising began, many in Washington were fond of pointing out that, unlike his father who murdered over 20,000 of his own citizens to quell an uprising, Bashar al-Assad does not have the stomach for such brutality. They were wrong. It is time for us to face the fact that there are no depths to which Assad and his regime will not resort to remain in power and to crush all legitimate opposition. Asking Syrian protestors to remain peaceful in the face of Assad’s brutal crackdown is tantamount to asking them to commit suicide and I fear that doing so may eventually pit us against a legitimate opposition instead of against an illegitimate regime.”

     

 

Rep. Chabot stressed the severe and appalling nature of the human rights violations in Syria, calling these violations “despicable acts” perpetrated by a “morally depraved” regime. He also emphasized that the United States has a “moral imperative to ensure that Assad” is removed from power. Rep. Chabot then cited the U.S. administration’s decision in August to call for Assad to step down and its more recent decision to impose targeted sanctions on Syrian officials and firms, but affirmed that these steps would not suffice in the face of increasing violence.

 

The growing number of confrontations between the Free Syrian Army and the Syrian regime’s forces represents a need for the Syrian opposition to protect itself against the regime’s brutal tactics. Rep. ChabotHehhh criticized the Administration’s policy on the armed opposition, stating that a policy of non-violence when confronted with such brutality “grows more untenable by the day.” He stressed that “the Syrian people – like all people – have the right to defend themselves against the brutality of an illegitimate and repressive regime,” and that “asking Syrian protestors to remain peaceful in the face of Assad’s brutal crackdown is tantamount to asking them to commit suicide.”  Rep. Chabot also expressed his worry about the lack of international consensus on the Syrian crisis and specifically referred to Russia and China’s veto of a November United Nations Security Council Resolution on Syria as “outrageous and indefensible.”

 

In a somber conclusion, Rep. Chabot warned that “there are no depths to which Assad and his regime will not resort to remain in power and to crush all legitimate opposition” and that continuing to ask the Syrian opposition to remain unarmed could pit the United States “against a legitimate opposition instead of against an illegitimate regime.”

 

 

Representative Gary Ackerman (D-NY)

Ranking Member of the House Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia

 

Notable Quotes:

  • “The international sanctions organized by the Administration in consultation with allies in Europe and with Turkey, together with subsequent sanctions by the Arab League, have made clear that the Assad regime’s days are numbered.”

  • “I would say to all those Syrians distraught by the lack of unity and common purpose, welcome to the wonderful world of democratic self-government. Your freedom will not come easily and certainly not without as great a struggle to create a common front as in throwing off the Assad tyranny.”

  • “It often seems to me that many of those most insistent that the conflict between mosque and state is irreconcilable seem to also be among the most enthusiastic when it comes to lowering the wall between church and state here in America. Perhaps they know something the rest of us don’t.

  • “But I believe there is reason for hope as well. Democratic norms that are won by people who have championed these principles in their own voices, and who have won their freedom with their own courage, may prove difficult to set aside, in the Middle East as much as anywhere else.”

  • “Just as we cannot assume success, it would be equally unwise to assume that the Arab revolutions cannot ultimately flower into democratic forms. These new Arab governments will likely take different forms than we would desire for ourselves, but may still remain legitimate and acceptable to their owners.”

  • “Our role in these momentous events is to lend what aid we prudently can and to remain consistent advocates of the truths declared to the world on July 4, 1776:  that all people are born free and equal; that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed; and that each of us is endowed with inalienable rights. If we believe these things are as right and true today as they were on that glorious July 4th, we must also believe they are right and true everywhere, and not least where the bloody hand of oppression lies most heavily.”

     

 

Rep. Ackerman commenced his remarks by commending the U.S. administration on the measures it has taken, alongside Turkey, Europe, and the Arab League, against the Syrian government thus far. “The Assad gang’s rule,” he asserted, “which has been characterized at home by unparalleled brutality and endemic corruption, and abroad by support for Iranian hegemony, the subversion of Lebanon’s independence, state support for terrorism against Israel, and illicit efforts at nuclear proliferation, is doomed and deservedly so.”

 

Rep. Ackerman then addressed the Syrian people, wishing for them “a democratic government, circumscribed by law [and] accountable to the public.”  Recognizing the divisions among the Syrian population and the opposition, Rep. Ackerman acknowledged that their freedom would come with a great struggle and that self-government would prove difficult and complex. However, he asserted, opting for a system that was “simple and easy” meant conserving “Bashar al-Assad and his piggish band of crooks, killers, and torturers of children.”

 

With regards to post-Assad Syria, Rep. Ackerman admitted that the most well-organized forces in Syria’s society are typically of a religious nature, and that “those who replace the Assad tyranny may not be Jeffersonian democrats.” Although these individuals may not consider the United States a natural ally, this does not imply “that they are, or need to be, our enemies.” Rep. Ackerman expressed his hope that the democratic principles apparent in the Syrian revolution will not be set aside by the future Syrian government, commenting that non-Arab Islamic countries have developed legitimate governments bound by the rule of law.

 

Rep. Ackerman concluded his remarks by insisting citing the fundamental principles of the Declaration of Independence: “that all people are born free and equal; that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed; and that each of us is endowed with inalienable rights.” He insisted that the United States must remain a strong advocate of these values, especially “where the bloody hand of oppression lies most heavily.”

 

 

Questions and additional remarks by Members of Congress, and specifically Representatives Dana Rohrabacher (R), Robert Turner (R), Gus Bilirakis(R), Ben Chandler (D), in addition to Chairman Steve Chabot(R) and Ranking Member Gary Ackerman(D) focused on 2 topics:

1)     The importance of the U.S. support to the Syrian opposition, including if necessary to an armed insurgency against the Assad regime.

2)     The need for the U.S. to ensure the full rights and participations of Syrian minorities in the future of Syria, and especially the Christians.

 Hof’s answers were that:

1)     The U.S. cannot deny to the Syrian people the right to defend themselves, including to bear weapons in that instance.

2)     The U.S. principal focus of discussion with the Syrian opposition, and particularly the SNC, is the status of minorities, and especially the Christians.

 

Representatives Brian Higgins (D) and Chris Murphy (D) stated their support to President Obama’s decision to call for President Assad to step down, and noted the multilateral approach being taken to handle the Syrian crisis, with the U.S. working with the European Union and the Arab League.

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